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Lori Gottlieb

Maybe You Should Talk to Someone: A Therapist, Her Therapist, and Our Lives Revealed

Nonfiction | Autobiography / Memoir | Adult | Published in 2019

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Part 2, Chapters 25-30Chapter Summaries & Analyses

Chapter 25 Summary: “The UPS Guy”

During Zach’s first year, while Lori was spending all her time at home, writing and taking care of the baby, she developed a need for more verbal interaction. She started engaging the UPS man (Sam) who delivered her baby stuff in conversations they both found strange and inappropriate. She was thinking it might be better for her if she went back to medical school, so she could become a psychiatrist, but when she called her former dean she suggested a change of course into clinical psychology: “It was shocking how right this felt, as if my life’s plan had finally been revealed” (344). The day she got her degree a few years later, she told it to the deliveryman and he hugged her with joy, revealing that he was also going back to school to become a contractor. They shared a warm moment of support, and several years later Sam built the bookshelves in Lori’s office.

Chapter 26 Summary: “Embarrassing Public Encounters”

Lori relates an instant where she met one of her patients while getting frozen yogurt with Boyfriend. As a rule, therapists will wait for the patient to acknowledge them or not, depending on whether they feel embarrassed. However, such encounters are also uncomfortable for therapists, as patients rarely know anything about their lives, and seeing them in everyday milieu might distance them from therapy. Additionally, Lori could not introduce her patient to Boyfriend because it would break confidentiality (he jokes, “dating a therapist was like dating a CIA agent” (351)).

Therapists must restrict their behavior in public to acceptable displays, in case a patient sees them, which can be stifling, and sometimes impossible. Thus, when Lori accidentally runs into John at a Lakers game, they both pretend not to know each other, but she witnesses his rude behavior and the way he looks at Lori with Zach, “an inscrutable expression on his face” (357). She mentions the encounter during the next session but he is unapproachable and remains distant except for saying that Zach was cute and that she should enjoy his displays of affection, while they last, which Lori connects to John and his mother. 

Chapter 27 Summary: “Wendell’s Mother”

Succumbing to an impulse, Lori googles Wendell and finds an article in which his mother details the family history. This is something patients frequently do, as they feel the relationship with their therapists is too one-sided. However, once they have learned things about them, they often find it difficult to continue therapy without unconsciously editing what they say. While searching for information about Wendell, Lori comes across a poster named Angela L. who leaves mostly negative, angry comments about everything. She externalizes (“blaming others for her unhappiness” (369)) and personalizes (registering many things as personal insults and slights). However, as she starts seeing Wendell (whom she judges favorably), she begins to gain more self-awareness. Lori feels like Angela L. in her obsessive search and vows never to do it again. However, she “felt weighed down by my newfound knowledge” (375). 

Chapter 28 Summary: “Addicted”

Charlotte is aged 25, and she comes to Lori presenting as anxious and bored by her job. She also reports drinking “‘a couple glasses of wine’ nightly” (376). She flirts with a man she has seen in the waiting room as he has therapy at the same time with Lori’s colleague, Mike. She calls him, “The Dude,” and they progress to exchanging banter until he starts coming in with a woman who might be his girlfriend.

Lori relates how everybody is unconsciously attracted to “a sense of familiarity” (380), and how we tend to replicate relationships we have learned as children (what Freud termed repetition compulsion), hoping for a different outcome. The Dude is attractive for Charlotte because he is unavailable and unstable, and when she dates someone who is different “To her unconscious, his emotional stability felt too foreign” (382). Lori feels Charlotte is very similar to herself when she was her age and this can make therapy difficult, because there is danger of self-projecting. Additionally, although Lori believes she is “addicted to therapy” (388), it takes a DUI to make her realize, “I have a drinking problem, not a therapist problem” (391). 

Chapter 29 Summary: “The Rapist”

During one of the sessions John lets slip that he apparently has a son named Gabe. Immediately after, he exits the office and does not come back. The following week he leaves a message saying he will not be continuing with therapy, using laughter and levity as a protective mechanism.

Lori ponders the old joke about therapist consisting of two words: “the rapist”; she asks herself, “Are we emotional rapists?” (393). John mentions that he might be having issues with potency and talks about being outnumbered by females in his home (this is when he mentions Gabe’s name). Lori believes the session has provoked projective identification (in projection a person attributes to another the feelings they have; in projective identification they evacuate those feelings into another, making them feel such feelings), as she cannot stop thinking about who Gabe might be. She decides to leave a message for John that he is welcome to return to therapy and discuss matters further.

Chapter 30 Summary: “On the Clock”

Lori remembers her final year of graduate school, when she performed her first individual, unsupervised therapy session, with a young architect named Michelle, who was severely depressed. She calls the process “a trial by fire” (413). The hospital expects her to gather Michelle’s history and “establish some rapport with her” (413). However, Michelle immediately starts sobbing and continues for a long time. Lori describes her own unease in the situation, being unsure how best to proceed, but once she verbalizes that Michelle seems depressed, the word releases the patient’s fears of speaking about how she feels, “She’s never been in therapy before but knows she needs help” (418).

Lori realizes after a while that the clock has stopped and she has no idea how much time has passed. She panics but Michelle tells her the time (there is another clock behind Lori). Her supervisor commends her while stressing she needs to take the patient’s history, and that if she does not know something, she should always remain honest and authentic. Over time, Lori develops a gauge for first sessions: “Did the patient feel understood?” (422)

Part 2, Chapters 25-30 Analysis

In Chapters 26 and 27, Gottlieb delineates dilemmas concerning matters outside the therapist’s office: patients meeting their therapists in everyday situations, and researching for personal details about them. While it is normal and almost inevitable that a patient will meet his or her therapist at least once in the outside world during the course of therapy, in the patient’s mind the therapist exists exclusively in an isolated bubble of the office, which is a safe zone and an almost sacred space of assisted self-exploration. Observing therapists behaving as ordinary people for some patients might signal a breach of that special kind of reality created in the office, and might endanger the nature of their relationship.

While in Chapter 23 Lori describes her reluctance to face Julie at Trader Joe’s, Zach initiates the contact and the situation resolves itself spontaneously and amicably, with Julie visibly at ease. In Chapter 26, however, John sees Lori and her son at a Lakers game. Aside from witnessing his rudeness outside therapy, she also recognizes his attempt to avoid meeting her and acknowledging her presence. (This scene connects with Chapter 29, when John, having made a Freudian slip, admits he had a son, then leaves the session and cancels therapy.)

These two examples set the parameters of the spectrum of patient behavior outside the office. While such encounters also represent a challenge for the therapists, who need to decide how best to approach the situation so that the patient does not feel too disturbed, they can also be awkward for their companions (Lori mentions Boyfriend’s reaction), as therapists cannot answer any questions due to confidentiality privilege. Gottlieb shows that even though this issue seems superficial, it represents a fertile ground for both useful and potentially harmful reactions.

The second problematic area in the patients’ minds is the largely unknowable life of their therapists. Everybody is curious, especially about the lives of those whose job is partly to remain private. Patients tend to develop an almost obsessive need to know more about their therapists, especially during stages of transference, as they grow attached to the therapist. Lori falls into the same trap herself as Wendell’s patient, as she describes in Chapter 27 her compulsive research into his private life (and “hitting jackpot” in the form of an in-depth interview with Wendell’s mother). Finding out personal details about the therapist can backfire, as patients will often unconsciously start to modify the information they volunteer during therapy either to render themselves more likable or to provoke.

In Chapter 28, Gottlieb introduces another patient, a young woman named Charlotte, who believes she is dependent on therapy, while she is developing alcoholism and a habit of choosing destructive partners. Her case serves the author to outline several new issues: Freud’s repetition compulsion, Lori’s own sense of self-identification with some of Charlotte’s traits, and the space of the waiting room as a limbo within which patients of different therapists meet and might develop unorthodox relations.

Freud first developed the idea of repetition compulsion in 1914, in an article that dealt with the unconscious repetition of repressed content in different situations and towards different people who carry similar energy or psychic positioning to the original situations. Later, he described four distinct patterns of repetitive performance: in recurring dreams, in children’s games, in adults repeating the repressed material of the past within a contemporary situation, and in “destiny neurosis,” where such repetitiveness becomes a character trait. In Charlotte’s case, we see this type of repetitive behavior (which is most frequently destructive) in her choice of men who are emotionally unavailable and morally lax.

Gottlieb connects this with the character of The Dude, a man Charlotte meets in the waiting room before her therapy, during the time of shared nervousness about the coming session. Instead of focusing on her issues, Charlotte, like many other patients, choses avoidance as she begins to flirt and banter with the unknown man, creating a false sense of rapprochement while opening herself up for a potentially negative, repetitive experience. While Lori understands what motivates Charlotte, as she shared some of the same characteristics when she was young, she knows that she must avoid countertransference and approach Charlotte as objectively as possible.

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