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Plato

Gorgias

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447a-461bChapter Summaries & Analyses

447a-461b Summary

The dialogue, which is in direct speech and contains only a minimal introduction, is set in a building where the famous orator Gorgias has been lecturing before an audience. The dialogue begins as Socrates arrives with his friend Chaerephon. The two are greeted by Callicles, an aspiring politician who has been hosting Gorgias at his home. Gorgias is finishing his lecture, but Callicles offers to have him deliver another lecture or epideixis—a “display” speech showcasing his oratorical skill—for Socrates and Chaerephon. Socrates, however, explains that he prefers to have a dialogue (dialegesthai) with Gorgias and begins to interrogate the man.

Socrates (initially backed up by Chaerephon) begins by asking Gorgias what his art (techne) is. Polus, a young pupil of Gorgias, answers for his teacher, praising the art practiced by Gorgias. Socrates, however, does not want praise or a description of Gorgias’s art, but rather to know what exactly it is. Gorgias and Socrates agree that Gorgias’s art is oratory (rhetorike) and that Gorgias is therefore an orator (rhetor). Having established this, Socrates asks Gorgias to converse with him in concise question-and-answer format (rather than in extended speeches), and Gorgias agrees to do so.

First, Socrates questions Gorgias about what exactly oratory consists of. It is established that oratory is entirely concerned with speech, in contrast to arts such as medicine or physical training, in which speech merely plays a part. Socrates then seeks to understand how oratory is to be distinguished from arts such as arithmetic and astronomy, which are conducted almost entirely through speech and have specified objects of knowledge (number for arithmetic, movements of celestial bodies for astronomy).

Socrates presses Gorgias to say what the object of oratory is, but Gorgias responds by praising oratory without answering this question. Socrates tries a different tack: If faced with competition from other professionals, such as doctors and physical trainers, each of whom claim that their art has as its object the greatest good, what object would Gorgias claim for oratory to maintain its value in the face of its competition? Gorgias replies that the object of oratory is to persuade people, meaning that oratory is to be understood—as Socrates says—as a “maker of conviction” (453a). Socrates then presses Gorgias further, asking Gorgias to tell him what oratory produces conviction about, since other arts produce conviction too, after all, about various other subjects. Gorgias responds that the object of oratory is to produce conviction on the subject of right and wrong before large masses of people.

Socrates now posits that there is a distinction to be made between conviction based on knowledge (episteme), which must be true, and conviction based on belief (doxa), which can be true or false. Gorgias agrees that this distinction is valid. Questioned about what kind of conviction is produced by oratory, Gorgias responds that it produces conviction based on belief, not knowledge.

Socrates then asks Gorgias about which subjects the orator can advise his listeners, and Gorgias boastfully expounds on the scope of oratory: The orator can advise the masses on virtually all subjects, including expert matters such as shipbuilding, wall building, and the appointing of generals. On such expert matters, Gorgias goes on to claim, it is generally orators rather than experts who are able to convince people, even though experts have knowledge of their subject while orators have only opinion. Gorgias also introduces a key caveat: The orator should not abuse his art, though he cannot be blamed if his pupils should choose to do so.

After a brief interlude, in which Socrates emphasizes his goal of working with his interlocutor for the sake of reaching mutual enlightenment rather than to score points, the dialogue continues. Socrates at last exposes the fatal inconsistencies in Gorgias’s definition of oratory. Gorgias’s claim that the orator is more capable of producing conviction in a mass audience than an expert is tantamount, Socrates points out, to claiming that an ignorant person is more convincing than an expert to an audience that is as ignorant as he is—a statement that Gorgias agrees must be true.

Socrates then returns to the question of right and wrong: Does the orator really have no knowledge of right and wrong, as Gorgias suggested before, or must an aspiring pupil already have such knowledge before embarking on a study of oratory? Furthermore, if a pupil does not have such knowledge, would the orator then teach him? Gorgias responds that he could teach a pupil right and wrong if the pupil does not already have the knowledge in question. Socrates understands this to mean, as Gorgias concedes, that for a man to become an orator he must have knowledge of right and wrong, having acquired this knowledge either before or after beginning to study oratory.

Socrates then proceeds to reason, by analogy with other arts, that somebody who has knowledge of right and wrong should be called righteous, further positing that a righteous man “will never want to do wrong” (460c), meaning that an orator, who according to Gorgias must have knowledge of right and wrong, must be righteous and as a righteous man will not want to do wrong. This means that it would be impossible for an orator to make wrong use of their art—something that Gorgias had earlier claimed an orator would be able to do. Having exposed this inconsistency in Gorgias’s claims, Socrates wonders how they are to proceed.

447a-461b Analysis

Scholars usually count the Gorgias as one of Plato’s “Early Dialogues”; a date of composition in the early 380s BCE is likely. Many of Plato’s Early Dialogues were characterized by their brevity, and though the Gorgias is relatively long—it is certainly much longer than other early works by Plato, such as the Apology and the Crito—it is not nearly as long as many of Plato’s more mature works, such as the Republic or the much later Laws. The Gorgias also lacks the complex framing devices found in many of Plato’s later dialogues, such as the Phaedo and the Symposium. Instead, the dialogue begins rather abruptly, in direct speech, as Socrates arrives at a building where Gorgias is lecturing and proceeds to question him.

The first part of the dialogue consists of Socrates’s discussion with Gorgias. Socrates seeks to establish the exact nature of the art (techne) practiced by Gorgias, which both parties agree should be called oratory (rhetorike). Establishing the nature of Gorgias’s art, Socrates seems to believe, will tell him “what sort of man he is” (447a) while also elucidating The Nature and Social Function of Oratory. As Socrates and Gorgias arrive at a definition of oratory, relying heavily on analogy with other professions (such as shoemaking, medicine, painting, etc.), Socrates begins to develop his key distinction between knowledge (episteme) and opinion (doxa).

This distinction, which remains important throughout the dialogue, rests on the premise that knowledge must be true while opinion can be either true or false. Conceding this distinction, Gorgias proceeds to classify oratory as the art of producing conviction based on opinion (not knowledge) in a mass audience—a concession which may seem hasty, and which soon gets him into trouble. Indeed, Gorgias seems to think that his definition of oratory is proof of its greatness, when in reality—at least in Socrates’s view—his classification of oratory as “an ignorant person [who] is more convincing than the expert before an equally ignorant audience” (459b) undermines The Purpose of Art. After all, a person should not be able to produce conviction in a subject on which they do not have any knowledge, only opinion.

Above all else, Socrates reveals that he is most interested in The Meaning of Right and Wrong. For Socrates, all true arts and knowledge help to lead a person into living a more virtuous life, one that is in accordance with morality and what is best for the soul. This is a key concept that will become even more important as the dialogue progresses. For now, Socrates’s skepticism toward the uses of oratory is rooted in the fact that, as Gorgias’s reasoning suggests, it is possible for the orator to misuse his skills to do wrong. This admission implies that there is a moral danger inherent to oratory, which, in the hands of the wrong kind of orator, could be used to mislead or corrupt an audience instead of instilling knowledge and virtue in them.

Socrates’s debate with Gorgias is a powerful demonstration of his method of “question-and-answer,” the so-called elenchus. The goal of the Socratic elenchus—in the Gorgias as in other Platonic dialogues—is to arrive at conclusions that both parties agree on “in a logical sequence” (454c). However, this is only the first part of the elenchus. The second part consists of refutation, which usually comes about when Socrates shows that, in the course of the discussion, his interlocutor has made a claim that is contradictory or illogical. This method, moreover, is opposed to the oratorical style practiced by Gorgias and his kind, a method characterized by the long “display speech,” or epideixis

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